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#3329 06/01/2025 11:07 PM
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Many are taken in by MSM reports of Israeli callous attacks based on Hamas sources.
This is just the latest incident:
Fox News, AP, CNN, Others Ran With Massive Hamas-Sourced Fake News, Then the Surveillance Video Came Out
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To recap, major news outlets, including Fox News, ran with a completely unsubstantiated tale of IDF forces carrying out a mass attack on civilians trying to collect aid. They didn't ask for any proof before spewing claims that were obviously sourced by Hamas. Further, one day prior, Hamas told the United States that any ceasefire deal must include the cessation of current aid distribution. Why? Because when the terrorists don't control the aid, it strips them of their control over the people. Yet, these "news outlets" still uncritically reported a made-up blood libel about an aid center being the site of a massacre.

This harkens back to the mass of false reporting in November of 2023 about Israel supposedly bombing a hospital and killing at least 700 people. By the next day, it was made clear that not only was there no bombing by Israel (a Palestinian Jihad rocket had fallen short in an adjoining parking lot), but that the actual death toll was around 25 people. Yet, CNN, the AP, Fox News, and the rest continue to cite the "Gaza Health Ministry" despite its long history of lying to prop up Hamas. What an absolute disgrace the press is.
Hamas doesn't care about Palestinians.
This article relates to this facet:
New Aid Group in Gaza Makes an End Run Around Hamas—and the UN]
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The United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) has been the primary source of humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, the West Bank, and Gaza since its founding in 1949.
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The trouble with the UN serving as the main source of aid, Israelis and the U.S. government say, is Hamas.
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The terrorist group [Hamas] loots the distribution trucks carrying food and then sells the stolen goods on the black market at inflated prices.
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But looting is not all Hamas does. According to a document reviewed by The Free Press based on Israeli intelligence information, Hamas embeds operatives within the UN’s supply chain to manage the flow of funds to the terrorist organization. According to the same document, in 2024 alone, Hamas intercepted $500 million worth of aid.
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With people in Gaza reportedly on the brink of starvation, the question has been what can be done about it, given that Hamas controls the food stores and has threatened Gazans who seek outside aid, warning them that anyone who “cooperates” with Israel will “pay the price.”
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On Wednesday, under the leadership of Reilly, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation and its local Palestinian partners, alongside American security contractors from Safe Reach Solutions, delivered an estimated 14,500 boxes of shelf-stable food to Gazans of all ages and demographics. It gave out aid—30-pound boxes full of pasta, rice, flour, cooking oil, and canned goods—at two of what the organization refers to as “secure distribution sites” located in southern Gaza.
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None of the foundation’s success in providing over 840,000 meals so far seemed to translate on social media, where images of the aid handout were rapidly turned into memes comparing Gazans waiting for food to Jewish prisoners waiting at Auschwitz.

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Here is the problem....

25-75 woman and children living in Palestine are being killed every single day by Israel.

This is exactly the reason why we are seeing all these attacks of violence against Jews in this country...

These killers and this antisemitism across college campuses is because nobody gives a shit about the innocent woman and children being murdered...

Everytime a Jewish person gets killed it is huge news but not so about the Palestinians... People are also under the false assumption that these people have any control over HAMAS... They don't.

You have to look at the mindset of the people who are killing Jews. For them it's about revenge for the slaughter of their own people...

Nobody kills without a reason... To them this is justice.

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
People are also under the false assumption that these people have any control over HAMAS... They don't.
That indicates they need to be liberated.

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
People are also under the false assumption that these people have any control over HAMAS... They don't.
That indicates they need to be liberated.

But they are being murdered instead and it never really makes the news.

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
But they are being murdered instead and it never really makes the news.
First, as shown in the OP, the numbers are suspect.
However, if we do assume a disproportionate number of women and children casualties, then consider:
What does that say about a society where the men hide instead of protecting their women and children?
What does that say about a society where military operations are conducted from schools, hospitals, tunnels under civilian structures etc.?
What does that say about a society that uses humanitarian supplies to fund military operations instead of feeding their families?

You claim Palestinians are victims of Hamas despite them electing Hamas leadership and where many polls show they support Hamas's barbaric actions.
If they are indeed victims, then they should support Israel's efforts to destroy Hamas.
The sooner Israel eliminates Hamas the sooner Palestinians can look for a better life and not worry that their families will be sacrificed in future conflicts sparked by terrorist attacks.

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I am saying that woman and children are being killed every single day by Israel....(most of which is not reported by MSM) I am also saying that this is the MOTIVE for all these killings of Jews by lone wolf actors. This is also the reason for all the craziness on college campuses...

These people are not just randomly killing Jews for no reason. In their minds they are taking revenge for the slaughter happening in Gaza.

Btw,

I do believe that Israel will get us into a war very soon. Just like Ukraine is going to get us into a war too... Trump has handled all of this bad...

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
I am saying that woman and children are being killed every single day by Israel....(most of which is not reported by MSM) I am also saying that this is the MOTIVE for all these killings of Jews by lone wolf actors. This is also the reason for all the craziness on college campuses...

These people are not just randomly killing Jews for no reason. In their minds they are taking revenge for the slaughter happening in Gaza.

Btw,

I do believe that Israel will get us into a war very soon. Just like Ukraine is going to get us into a war too... Trump has handled all of this bad...


Yes I agree. Who is responsible?

Does any country have the right to defend themselves?

Israel has the right to defend itself until it does, then it doesn't.

Who is responsible for killing the woman and children?

Answer: The heads of ANY government who since 2007 sat with their thumb up their ass and allowed Hamas, a terrorist organization, to take control of Gaza.

If it was not important for 18 years, why is it important now?

And yes I agree that it is the Left side of the political spectrum that has allowed it to happen. Then I am a conservative.
However, I am not a brain damaged moron.

I cannot say whether the US military will be involved. It is impossible to predict what King Donald I will do. Even after he makes a statement on the subject.

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
In their minds they are taking revenge for the slaughter happening in Gaza.
This is why the lies and half truths that are presented in the media and the college campuses should be pointed out such as I did in the OP.
They are blinded to the fact that they are taking revenge on the wrong people.

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Answer: The heads of ANY government who since 2007 sat with their thumb up their ass and allowed Hamas, a terrorist organization, to take control of Gaza.
Try a little earlier. I vote Jimmy Carter for the top of the list.

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"It is impossible to predict what King Trump will do"

I have supported this guy for 10 years but I can't support him anymore.

I can predict that Trump will bankrupt this country like he has bankrupted everything else. For real. Do you know that Trump and his family have personally made about 1 billion dollars for every month that he has been in office?

He is gonna go down in history as one of the greatest con men that ever lived when this is over.

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The Question is:

When Donald and his friends have stolen all if the family jewels whether their will be a America left to pay for it.

The America you knew is long gone. How long do you think the people Donald is kicking in the financial nuts will continue to loan money to the US.

Canadian are docile and friendly folks unless you piss them off. Today 70% of Canadian refuse to buy American.

During WWI a Canadian MGen got pissed off sitting in the mud at Vimy* and in 10 days took the hill.
At Kapyong D Coy PPCLI** rescued US Marines. The Coy Cmdr ordered fire down on his own position. It really pissed off the Chinese.
They were awarded the US Presidents citation.

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* There were 1200 Guns. They invented the Standard (Creeping) Barage
** Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry

Notwithstanding CUSMA, Trump is applying tariffs that contradict the agreement HE signed.
You cannot trust a man you cannot trust. And it is stupid to make an attempt.


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