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There is a pay wall.

But most Trump supporters are going to be begging for his impeachment in another year....Watch..

This "BBB" that is about to pass is going to destroy millions of jobs, specifically Solar Jobs. This bill will also award Ukraine another $60 billion to keep the war going. (So much for ending it on day one)

Now he has us involved in the middle east. After years of campaigning AGAINST "endless middle east wars".... You have got to see his lies by now.

Why can't you realize that Trump is a conman by now? You can't be this blind.

Nobody supported Trump more than me, and I am telling you now that I was wrong. Trump is a very bad guy profiteering off his Presidency like no one ever did before...

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
There is a pay wall.
It works for me and I didn't subscribe or donate anything.
Don't worry about it--it was just a puff piece, better with video--i.e.
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1. NATO Chief Calls Trump ‘Daddy’

Mark Rutte, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s secretary general, apparently called Trump “daddy” during this week’s NATO summit while praising Trump for managing the Israel-Iran conflict.
[...snip...]
This was quickly followed by White House social media accounts posting a reel of Trump set to Usher’s song, “Daddy’s Home.”

Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
This "BBB" that is about to pass is going to destroy millions of jobs, specifically Solar Jobs.
If solar can't survive without government financial incentives, it shouldn't exist.

Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
This bill will also award Ukraine another $60 billion to keep the war going. (So much for ending it on day one)
He did fail on a timely end.
However, he continuously and actively seeks an end to the war.
I don't pretend to know Trump's current strategy but Ukraine's weakness gives Russia the incentive not to bargain.

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Now he has us involved in the middle east. After years of campaigning AGAINST "endless middle east wars".... You have got to see his lies by now.
Iran now shows signs of negotiating.
You don't give him credit for defusing the conflict between India and Pakistan or negotiating the Rowanda-Congo peace deal.
Remember he kept Russia at bay during his first term.
Nor should we ignore his peace agreement between Israel and Sudan.

Considder this article:
‘Trump On A Roll’: The President’s Winning So Much, Even CNN Admits It
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...the destruction of Iran’s key nuclear facilities to brokering a ceasefire between Iran and Israel...
...Trump maneuvering an impressive win at NATO, getting United States allies to more than double their contribution to the alliance...
...The president reached a trade deal with China, and expects a deal with India soon...
...The [inflation] rate is now reported at 2.4%, down from a high of 7% just four years ago...
...blue-collar workers have seen real wage growth of 1.7% in Trump’s first five months: this is the largest such increase in three generations...
...Trump has also incentivized major companies to invest in American manufacturing...
...we’ve hit the lowest border encounters since the 1960s...

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Trumps "current strategy" is to enrich himself and family as much as he can for the next four years.... That is a fact. Trump has personally profited about 1 BILLION PER MONTH since he has been back in office...

Everything from his social media site to crypto currency, sneakers, cologne, gold coins, watches, mugs, hats, t-shirts to his latest adventure mobile phone service.....Just today he was talking about getting into the A1 technology field...

Trump is Scum. You have got to see this by now.

I get it, you are retired (ie: a baby boomer) but this bill that Trump has pushed is going to destroy the lives of millions of working folks...

I personally know several people in the solar industry. These are great high paying jobs.. I have even dabbled in Solar myself. (In my spare time)

Here is another thing. And you are not going to like it.

Most of the people who watch FOX News are "Baby boomers"...Soon I predict Fox won't be around because the baby boomers are dying in record numbers. That is a fact...

Their kids and grandkids are going to be left with a bankrupted country.. This WILL pave the way for full blown Communism from coast to coast...

Trump did this....Mark my words..

Btw,

Do some research on Trump. He has bankrupted almost everything he has touched. He has used illegals to build his buildings and he has payed off politicians for decades to get building and zoning permits done...I propose that Trump also has extensive experience dealing with the 5 Mafia families of New York... When Trump was building his buildings back in the 1970's nothing got built without the Mafia.

They controlled everything from unions, to concrete/flooring/windows etc...No way did Trump build one building without dealing with the MOB..

P.S.

Trumps best friend and Personal mentor was Attorney Roy Cohn... Cohn was the biggest MAFIA Lawyer who ever lived. Trump learned everything from Roy Cohn.. Look it up..

Everything Trump is doing now is Roy Cohn like... Everything Trump has ever done over the past 50 years is ALL Roy Cohn like..

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Trumps "current strategy" is to enrich himself and family as much as he can for the next four years.... That is a fact. Trump has personally profited about 1 BILLION PER MONTH since he has been back in office...
Ever wonder why I take many of your rants with a grain of salt?
You never source your wild claims.
Your emphasized claim of 1 BILLION PER MONTH would have made him over 5 billion dollars richer--about the same as the current estimate of 5.1 billion.
However,
Buffett, Musk or Trump: Who Has Gained the Most Wealth in 2025?
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Trump’s Wealth Swings Wildly, but He’s Down Overall

What he lost: -$1.4 billion
Net worth (as of June 16, 2025): ~$5.1 billion

Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
I personally know several people in the solar industry. These are great high paying jobs..
But are their jobs dependent on government financial incentives?

Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Most of the people who watch FOX News are "Baby boomers"...Soon I predict Fox won't be around because the baby boomers are dying in record numbers. That is a fact...
I don't know what your fascination with Fox is.
Personally, I haven't tuned into Fox for years.

Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Their kids and grandkids are going to be left with a bankrupted country..
Everyone's kids and grandkids "are going to be left with a bankrupted country" if Trump fails to cut waste, regulations, illegal immigration, voter fraud, etc.
It's a monumental job with obstacles constantly being thrown. (It appears the swamp denizens don't want it drained.)

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Originally Posted by chuck
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Trumps "current strategy" is to enrich himself and family as much as he can for the next four years.... That is a fact. Trump has personally profited about 1 BILLION PER MONTH since he has been back in office...
Ever wonder why I take many of your rants with a grain of salt?
You never source your wild claims.
Your emphasized claim of 1 BILLION PER MONTH would have made him over 5 billion dollars richer--about the same as the current estimate of 5.1 billion.
However,
Buffett, Musk or Trump: Who Has Gained the Most Wealth in 2025?
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Trump’s Wealth Swings Wildly, but He’s Down Overall

What he lost: -$1.4 billion
Net worth (as of June 16, 2025): ~$5.1 billion

Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
I personally know several people in the solar industry. These are great high paying jobs..
But are their jobs dependent on government financial incentives?

Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Most of the people who watch FOX News are "Baby boomers"...Soon I predict Fox won't be around because the baby boomers are dying in record numbers. That is a fact...
I don't know what your fascination with Fox is.
Personally, I haven't tuned into Fox for years.

Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Their kids and grandkids are going to be left with a bankrupted country..
Everyone's kids and grandkids "are going to be left with a bankrupted country" if Trump fails to cut waste, regulations, illegal immigration, voter fraud, etc.
It's a monumental job with obstacles constantly being thrown. (It appears the swamp denizens don't want it drained.)

You are completely brainwashed...

As far as solar goes, I know some reps making over a million a year selling solar. There are probably 300-400 Thousand Solar Reps across the country. These people, the companies they work for and the finance companies are all going to lose big time when this bill passes...

Solar is actually a good thing not a bad thing... There is a 30% tax credit when someone goes solar. If they lease then the leasing company gets the 30% .. They pass this on to the customer normally..

In Connecticut, we have some of the highest electric bills in America. The Electric companies are ALL gangsters and the politicians control them....1 or 2 companies have a complete monopoly over electricity..

So this bill will destroy a lot of jobs and make solar unaffordable for millions of people. Solar in most cases eliminates or reduces their electricity bill Drastically. People save thousands by going Solar. So it works out for everyone.

But what do you care. The worst generation ever. Baby Boomers. (Your group has destroyed this country more than anyone else)

You don't like my "rants" because I am correct about what I said....

As for FOX.. The reason I bring FOX up is because they are the number 1 ranked "News Source" in all the land... They brainwash the most people. Their biggest audience is Baby boomers...

I didn't say you watched them. I haven't watched them in over 5 years too.

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
There is a 30% tax credit when someone goes solar.
As I said before, solar should be able to stand on its own and not require government financial incentives.

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You don't like my "rants" because I am correct about what I said...
Then it should be easy to support your contentions.
Instead, you avoid doing so like the plague.


Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
I didn't say you watched them.
Actually, you have indicated that I do watch Fox and that I base my opinions on their programming.
You offer such indications instead of addressing the points being made.

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You don't make points...

Your mind is set on Trump and that is that....

In your eyes, being better than Biden (which he is) is all that matters to you. Trump could do no wrong and anyone who dares to be critical of this CONVICTED FELON should shut up.

But he is a freaking crook and Carnival barker.. I wish I could take my damn vote back...

Just think about it, we literally have a convicted felon in the White House...(34 Felony convictions actually)

And don't forget he still owes over $90 million and counting for that "sex assault case" ....

Btw,

What was your purpose of posting this thread about Trump? To glorify him some more?

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Just think about it, we literally have a convicted felon in the White House...(34 Felony convictions actually)
I can't believe you, a lawyer, puts much weight on the lawfare findings of a kangaroo court.
Kangaroo Court Convicts Trump Following Soviet Show Trial In New York City
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Nondisclosure deals like the one that served as the basis of Trump’s payments are perfectly legal. The payment for which Bragg is prosecuting Trump doesn’t meet the threshold for misreporting business expenses, much less amount to any criminal activity above a misdemeanor, so the former president pled not guilty. Yet Bragg, who campaigned on vengeance against the Republican, ignored the FEC and Department of Justice’s deliberate decision not to charge Trump for the same payment and pursued a felony prosecution.

Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
What was your purpose of posting this thread about Trump? To glorify him some more?
It was a whim to show the Trump team messing with and mocking the MSM.
My subsequent posts were just responses to your misguided posts.

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Originally Posted by chuck
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Just think about it, we literally have a convicted felon in the White House...(34 Felony convictions actually)
I can't believe you, a lawyer, puts much weight on the lawfare findings of a kangaroo court.
Kangaroo Court Convicts Trump Following Soviet Show Trial In New York City
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Nondisclosure deals like the one that served as the basis of Trump’s payments are perfectly legal. The payment for which Bragg is prosecuting Trump doesn’t meet the threshold for misreporting business expenses, much less amount to any criminal activity above a misdemeanor, so the former president pled not guilty. Yet Bragg, who campaigned on vengeance against the Republican, ignored the FEC and Department of Justice’s deliberate decision not to charge Trump for the same payment and pursued a felony prosecution.

Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
What was your purpose of posting this thread about Trump? To glorify him some more?
It was a whim to show the Trump team messing with and mocking the MSM.
My subsequent posts were just responses to your misguided posts.

Was he convicted in a courtroom by a jury of his peers on 34 FELONY Counts yes or no?

I can't believe as "a lawyer" that I fell for his lies.. I kinda of knew and I kinda of wanted to see a real gangster like Trump take on these professional politicians.. But I should have known better...

Anyone who lives in NYC and especially anyone from Queens (like myself) always knew who/what Trump is...

So now I have buyers remorse because Trump and his Pirate family are about to bankrupt America once and for all..

Watch..

I am telling you right now, that Full blown Communism starts because of greedy men like Trump.... Throughout history. You are about to see it in NYC.....(the World's biggest city)

Trump is all about himself and money. He has never changed in 79 years... Why on God's green earth can't you see that?

Have you ever seen him give one speech ever where he didn't refer to himself in the third person? This guy thinks he is God himself. It's sickening to watch.

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Was he convicted in a courtroom by a jury of his peers on 34 FELONY Counts yes or no?
No. A politically motivated trial that used nothing charges that, even if true, should have been misdemeanor.
The jury pool consisted of 90% voters against Trump is not exactly a jury of his peers.
The purpose of the trial was political not criminal and it gave Trump's opponents a talking point.
I would think someone with a law degree would recognize the political nature of the trial and not parrot the talking points.
...And you have the audacity to accuse me of being a dupe and parroting pundits.

Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
I can't believe as "a lawyer" that I fell for his lies.. I kinda of knew and I kinda of wanted to see a real gangster like Trump take on these professional politicians.. But I should have known better...
You fell for the 34 felony line and voted for him because you thought he had gangster traits.
You attack him because you consider him a criminal and, conversely, because he doesn't act like a criminal--make up your mind.

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Yes everything you say I agree with. (It is my opinion too) But the fact remains.. He was convicted on 34 Felony counts.. Which makes him a convicted felon.

I asked you "Is he a convicted felon"....

I asked you do we have a convicted felon in the White House and you reply NO..

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
I asked you do we have a convicted felon in the White House and you reply NO..
No.
You asked "Was he convicted in a courtroom by a jury of his peers on 34 FELONY Counts yes or no?"
I contend that the jury was not of his peers.

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Do we have a convicted felon in the White House. Yes or No?

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There are very few heads / "Godfathers" of American crime families,so yes the jury was not his peers. However the point is MOOT!.
That is not the criteria for the definition.

The real question is how much will he, his family, and his billionaire buddies steal, and will the country survive?

Remember the "BIG SHORT"

A right-wing contributor on a news talks show suggested that America was good at innovating, manufacturing and selling to the world.
If that is so, why is the president telling ALL of the customers to GET OUT OF THE STORE.
When he has pissed off all of the once friends, who will buy the useless shit he is selling.

Canadians of their own initiative have stopped buying goods labelled "MADE IN USA"
Canada is the your biggest customer. Canadian are literally staying the F%^& out of the store.

There State Governors begging Canadians to return.

C123

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Do we have a convicted felon in the White House. Yes or No?
Yes, we have an unjustly convicted felon in the White House.
Those who use that as a talking point reward those who weaponize the legal system.

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Originally Posted by Chuck123
There are very few heads / "Godfathers" of American crime families,so yes the jury was not his peers. However the point is MOOT!.
That is not the criteria for the definition.
It was the criteria for the question asked.
It deserved a "yes" only when he omitted the false assumption embedded in the question.

Originally Posted by Chuck123
The real question is how much will he, his family, and his billionaire buddies steal, and will the country survive?
I feel the real question is: "how much will Trump save the country and does he have a chance at saving the country that is so embedded with waste and corruption?"

Originally Posted by Chuck123
Remember the "BIG SHORT"
No.

Originally Posted by Chuck123
...why is the president telling ALL of the customers to GET OUT OF THE STORE.
When did he say this?
As to Trump's position on trade with Canada, this article sheds a little light on it:
Canadian Government Rescinds Digital Services Tax, Requests to Resume Trade Talks Again

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Originally Posted by chuck
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Do we have a convicted felon in the White House. Yes or No?
Yes, we have an unjustly convicted felon in the White House.
Those who use that as a talking point reward those who weaponize the legal system.

Good point.. On the other hand,

Re: a two tiered legal system

Wouldn't you agree that practically 99.99999999% of all persons convicted of 34 FELONIES would see some prison time?

It seems to me that Trump found a way out (ie: a loophole) of serving prison time. (Ie: he won the Presidency) so Trump just literally benefitted from a two tiered justice system... Mostly because he is rich...

I guarantee that a poor person would be in jail by now...

Btw,

What does Trump do the minute he gets into office, he pardons other WEALTHY famous people and Governors who were convicted felons..

He pardoned the former Governor of my State of Connecticut John Rowland..Rowland went to prison twice for accepting bribes. He was a Republican.

P.S.

It must be nice to use the taxpayers millions of dollars worth of campaign donations to pay your legal fees.. Trump probably didn't pay his attorneys a nickel of his own money....

The game is rigged Chuck.

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Wouldn't you agree that practically 99.99999999% of all persons convicted of 34 FELONIES would see some prison time?
However, 99.99999999% of all persons convicted of what Trump was accused of would be facing misdemeanors, not felonies.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
The game is rigged Chuck.
No argument with that statement.

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Trans Swimmer Lia Thomas Stripped of Swim Titles in UPenn Trump Deal
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As part of the resolution, Penn will reinstate Division I swimming records and titles to athletes displaced by Thomas's victories and issue personalized apology letters to each of them, per the Department of Education. The university must adopt "biology-based" definitions of male and female in athletics and publicly commit to barring "males from competing in female athletic programs."

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JD Vance was right about 1 thing.


Vance described himself as “a Never Trump guy,” calling Trump “an idiot,” “noxious” ,“reprehensible and America's Hitler.” POWERFUL Words Never EVER to be FORGOTTEN!!

Rubio was not far off either...let's check it out.....

Rubio warned that in the years to come, there will be “many people on the right, in the media and voters at large, that are going to be having to explain and justify how they fell into this trap of supporting Donald Trump.” He said Trump was “reckless and dangerous” and would do “damage to America.” WOW!!! VERY POWERFUL and TRUE INDEED!!!!

This bill that Trump has personally pushed (ON HOW TO SPEND THE MONEY THEY TOOK FROM US) will bankrupt this country.

Disabled people will lose health insurance, self employed people will lose health insurance. Big deal if waitresses don't have to pay taxes on their measly tips (only up to 25k) they won't be able to afford health insurance either.

America today is the modern day version of Rome. It fell too.

Btw,

They are lying their asses off when they tell you "your taxes will go up 63-68%" ....That is fear mongering at its worst and a total lie...

People actually believe that if they make $60,000 a year they will owe $37,000 in taxes? Total bullshit...

"RICO"

An ongoing criminal enterprise... The entire United States Congress (both houses) are in violation of RICO.. An ongoing criminal enterprise...

The American people did this to themselves.


P.S.

From the beginning of Donald Trump’s presidency in 2017 to its end in 2021, the national debt increased by 40.43%, about $8.18 trillion, according to the U.S. Treasury Department.

Trump doing what Trump does. Bankrupting everything he touches and making a personal fortune in the process....


Also remember, Trumps tariffs on other countries are the biggest taxes on Americans in the history of the United States.

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Vance described himself as “a Never Trump guy,” calling Trump “an idiot,” “noxious” ,“reprehensible and America's Hitler.” POWERFUL Words Never EVER to be FORGOTTEN!!
Not forgotten, perhaps, but retracted.

Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
From the beginning of Donald Trump’s presidency in 2017 to its end in 2021, the national debt increased by 40.43%, about $8.18 trillion, according to the U.S. Treasury Department.
About half of that can be attributed to C19.

Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
...Trumps tariffs on other countries are the biggest taxes on Americans in the history of the United States.
Really?
Trump sets tariff revenue record; CBO says tariffs can offset spending by $3 trillion over the next decade

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For months Trump said he "would end the Ukraine war on day 1"...

Then Trump said no more endless middle east wars and he then attacks Iran...

Now this...

Trump pitches plan allowing farmers to vouch for illegal immigrant workers facing deportation

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...gal-immigrant-workers-facing-deportation

Trump to allow Iowa farmers to keep their ILLEGAL farmers...

In other words he has backtracked on getting ILLEGALS out and has created a modern day slavery system in Iowa. Yes this is slavery too..

It's also a very slippery slope allowing these Illegals to stay here working on the farms... Because he is giving priority to one group of people.. How about the 30,000 Chinese Massage workers who are here Illegally? Or the 100,000 construction workers here Illegally?

All to buy votes....

This man is a straight up liar on everything he promised...

I also think the "conservative media" is in on protecting him too.. Inflation has not come down and neither have gas prices.. They have both gone way up since he took office in my state..

I have been watching the price of things (especially gas and food) like a hawk since he came back....

So they are all lying...

Btw ,

I think it's disgusting how he campaigned about these no taxes on tips and overtime to win votes..

Both are ONLY temporary and both are capped at $25,000 and $12,500 Respectfully....

As for the "overtime with no tax"
They still have the taxes coming out of their paychecks and have to claim the reduction when they file their taxes...

This bill does nothing for most people. (I am self employed)

It also keeps funding Ukraine.

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